New GLP-1 for Alcohol Addiction and IBS, Instagram’s AI Fake Crackdown + 5 New Health Tools

"We don't want to be tricked, we don't want to be fooled... if you're going to do that, people will trust you less, even if it is more convenient for you."
- Chalene Johnson
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Eli Lilly is testing a new GLP-1 called brenipatide in phase three trials, and weight loss isn’t even the main focus, researchers are watching it for alcohol use disorder, opioid addiction, bipolar disorder, and IBS. Chalene Johnson also breaks down a new Yale University study on why the hunger hormones ghrelin and leptin roar back the moment someone stops taking a GLP-1.

Then Chalene calls out an Instagram account called Baddie Bethany (also posting as Baddie Betty on Facebook), nearly a million followers and Instagram is rolling out a brand new AI content label. She also flags an AI “Dr. Chen” wellness account blending real health facts with false ones to earn trust.

Plus, five new health devices she’s watching, including a toilet sensor called Throne, an AI skin scanner called SkinBit, and a caregiving wearable from the founders of Fitbit.

Topics discussed: Eli Lilly, brenipatide, Zepbound, Yale University, ghrelin, leptin, berberine, Baddie Bethany, Baddie Betty, Dr. Chen, Chen Family Wellness, Carrie Sisson, Instagram, Throne, SkinBit, Prenuvo, 3D Radiology, Eight Sleep, Apple, Fitbit, Lufu, Lindsey Clancy trial.

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Would a GLP-1 built for addiction, not weight, help you?


Would a GLP-1 built for addiction, not weight, help you?


Would a GLP-1 built for addiction, not weight, help you?


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00:00

Intro: the Lindsey Clancy trial + episode preview

[00:00:00] Chalene Johnson : What is up, buttercup? Hey, thanks so much for joining me here on the Chalene Show. I’ve got a lot to cover for you today. Quick updates. The Lindsey Clancy trial, at the time that I’m recording this, they are still deliberating. It is still setting the internet and the world on fire. Everybody’s divided about it.

[00:00:18] Chalene Johnson : Everybody is an attorney. Everybody has picked their sides. It actually doesn’t even matter. Whatever the jury determines, there will be people who said, “I told you so,” and those who will say, “They need to appeal,” or whatever. It will divide everyone on social media, and we will then move on to the next trial.

[00:00:38] Chalene Johnson : Today’s episode, I’m going to cover for you a new peptide that specifically improves IBS, potentially alcoholism, opiate addiction, bipolar disorder, other elements related to mental health, and at the same time, help people to lose weight. But weight loss isn’t the number one thing that they’re looking at right now in the testing for this new peptide that I’m gonna explore with you.

[00:01:03] Chalene Johnson : We’re gonna talk about some other new research, just came out of Yale University, looking at what happens when you stop taking the GLP-1. I’m gonna tell you about a beef I have with another female Instagram creator who is, I’m sorry, a total liar, and I’m gonna ask for your help in getting her banned on Instagram.

[00:01:27] Chalene Johnson : Speaking of Instagram, I’m gonna tell you about some new policies they have. I’m also gonna blow your mind by sharing with you some new devices that are about to hit the market. Crazy devices that will help you to take care of your aging parent, let you know in advance if that mole on your right elbow is actually something you need to worry about, sunglasses that you can wear that’ll tell you your step count, and countless other metrics related to your health.

[00:01:56] Chalene Johnson : Like, there’s some new technology that it’s gonna give us information. What we do with that information is a different story. We have so much to cover. Let’s get to it. Let me start by saying I’m recording this on Tuesday night, and I wanna give you guys an update, those of you who’ve been sending all of your thoughts and prayers for Penelope.


00:02:15

Personal update: Penelope's mastectomy surgery and recovery

[00:02:15] Chalene Johnson : I mean, we’ve had millions of dogs. You guys haven’t heard me talk about things that have happened with our dogs. By the way, they’ve all passed, except the perfect one. She is here, she is with us, and she is in recovery. Penelope is, at the moment, recovering from major surgery. She had a full mammary chain mastectomy.

[00:02:38] Chalene Johnson : So that means they basically removed all of her mammary tissue on one side of her stomach. It’s a huge scar. It’s a huge surgery. And on top of that, they found more tumors. They found one On her foot as well. It’s a major surgery because they have to remove so much skin and so much tissue, and it’s a huge incision.

[00:03:00] Chalene Johnson : And our girl does not do well with pain meds. I would love to tell you she’s doing fantastic. I wish my vet had told me she was doing fantastic. But unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, my vet had to tell me the truth and tell me that the surgery went beautifully, but Penelope, we’re keeping her there at the hospital because they’re trying to balance her pain meds, which she has reactions to, including nausea and dysphoria and anxiety.

[00:03:32] Chalene Johnson : They’ve been trying to reduce her pain medication, but then she had a response that they seemed to think she was … They used the word uncomfortable with the pain. Ugh, I cannot handle it. I cannot handle it. I just wanna push it away, stick my head in the sand, dissociate, not even think about it. It hurts my heart to think about it.

[00:03:53] Chalene Johnson : Hopefully another day or so in the hospital. It’s really best for her to be there. And of course, I try to keep everybody updated on the socials, but I had so many people yesterday telling me, “You have to go visit her. You have to go visit her.” I just want you to know that we would love to, and we tried to, but the vet has suggested that we not The vet has said, “Listen, you’re welcome to.

[00:04:19] Chalene Johnson : It’s your dog. I want you to feel if that’s what you think you need to do, you should do it. But I’m telling you, having been a vet for many, many years, it’s not good, and this is not in the best interest of your dog. It confuses them. It gets them excited. Their heart rates get elevated. Yes, they seem happy when you’re there and relieved, and then you leave, and then they have major anxiety, and it’s just not good for the dog.”

[00:04:52] Chalene Johnson : I’m like, “You’re the boss. Whatever we need to do that is the best thing for this dog.” I told her, “There is no need to call us to ask us if we want to pay for XYZ. The answer is yes. You don’t need prior approval from us for the amount. The answer is yes across the board. The answer is yes. I will liquidate our assets.

[00:05:18] Chalene Johnson : We will sell everything we have to keep this dog healthy, happy, alive. I will remove a liver and sell it on the black market.” That is how special this dog is. Anyways, thank you for keeping her in your thoughts and prayers. She’s going to be doing amazing by the time that you’re hearing this. It will be Wednesday, and she will be two days post-surgery.


00:05:39

Miami penthouse construction saga

[00:05:39] Chalene Johnson : And if you’ve ever had a major surgery, you know those first two days are really hard. She’s probably gonna have to be in there for probably three days, and then she’ll come back to the drilling. Yay. Y’all, the situation in our penthouse here in Miami is diabolical. I mean I’m so happy that I have a place where I can vent about these things, AKA my Patreon, and I’m fascinated that people find it interesting.

[00:06:12] Chalene Johnson : ‘Cause if you didn’t find it interesting, I would just vent about these things to my closest friends. But apparently you guys are finding this, the ins, the outs, the details, the Legally Blonde moments, ’cause I sure did attend a homeowners association meeting. I sure do have things planned this week for the showing that they’re going to be doing.

[00:06:36] Chalene Johnson : There’s so much that’s going on. Anyways, I’m not gonna bore you with the details, but if you are interested in those kinds of things, of course you can always find the behind-the-scenes, the drama, the details, the dirt on the Patreon, chalene.com/more. But the CliffNote version is that, yes, we are still in the penthouse.

[00:06:57] Chalene Johnson : The reason why we have to stay here from a legal standpoint is explained on Patreon as well as the latest, which we learned not only is the construction going to continue, but it’s about to get much, much worse. It’s almost funny. It’s so insane that it’s almost funny. When something is so ridiculous that you just have to laugh.

[00:07:23] Chalene Johnson : We just learned that the construction that we’ve experienced thus far, the month of August, is what the contractor is classifying as the, quote, “quiet phase.” Dude, dude, have you been following me on Instagram? And the next phase, not only will it get louder, but there will be construction workers on my balcony.

[00:07:48] Chalene Johnson : My balcony which has floor-to-ceiling, what are they, 10-foot-tall windows? There’s gonna be workers out there. Will they be able to see me? I don’t know. Because they’re going to be placing blue plastic film over the windows, so no more sunlight. Are you kidding me? All right, as I said, let’s move on, okay? Let’s talk about two new things in the GLP-1 space.


00:08:18

New Yale University study: GLP-1s, hunger hormones, and weight regain

[00:08:18] Chalene Johnson : First, there’s a new GLP-1 that I can’t wait to tell you about, and I’m actually pretty encouraged to hear about this one, and a new study. Now, the study is one that came out of Yale, and they looked at why is it so many people lose weight on the GLP-1s, and then when they come off of them, they put it on pretty rapidly.

[00:08:39] Chalene Johnson : This is a study where what they figured out basically is that the GLP-1s, and I think, I’m like, “We needed a study for this?” The GLP-1s are– They’re muting your hunger alarm. When you’re hungry, your body tells you, and you can get to that place where you’re almost hangry, right? Well, apparently, when you are on a GLP-1, those of you who have taken one in the past or are on one now, you can let us know in the comments if this is true for you.

[00:09:10] Chalene Johnson : The GLP-1 kind of mutes those hunger signals. And so when people are coming off of these GLP-1s, because it is not just the slow emptying process, it’s not just the shift in the way your body regulates blood sugar. These GLPs also have an impact on your hormones, specifically your hunger hormones, ghrelin and leptin.

[00:09:35] Chalene Johnson : Well, the study found that when people come off of a GLP-1, the neurons, surprisingly, that help to sustain fat loss, they wake back up Once you come off of the GLP-1s, so it’s like if the GLP-1 was putting a mute button on your hunger alarm, the mute is… There’s no more mute button, so the hunger alarm is going off, and you’re gonna respond to it.

[00:10:02] Chalene Johnson : Whereas in the past, if you were on a GLP-1, apparently you have a muted alarm, if you will. So you come off the GLP-1s, the alarm goes off, you go and eat. I will say that this is being widely reported, this new study, and I’m like, “Didn’t we already know this? Don’t we already know this?” I don’t know. Maybe some people thought it would shift as people were losing weight.

[00:10:29] Chalene Johnson : Apparently, this study proved otherwise. However, did it though? Because what most people are not reporting is that this study was just done on mice, and mice are not humans. Can we make a lot of correlations? I guess. I don’t know. I’m not a scientist. But my thought is always there’s a thought process that’s a little different in a human.

[00:10:50] Chalene Johnson : So if you are on a GLP-1, learning how to curb hunger hormones naturally is something you can do. I’m telling you, I have been able to dramatically change… I don’t know, know if they’re, it’s, like, hunger cues or habits or probably really a combination of both. Berberine was super helpful for me. Just not buying all this…

[00:11:15] Chalene Johnson : Like, snacking for me and for Brett was such a habit. The things that we would buy, where we put the snacks, rituals around food. “Oh, okay, well, it’s this time o’clock, and this is when I normally grab a handful of nuts,” things like that. I think what really kind of opened up our eyes and made us realize how much we were snacking is the first time we took a trip to Europe and realized no one here snacks.

[00:11:44] Chalene Johnson : We, we would be out wandering the streets around 4:00 PM trying to find food to snack on ’cause we were staying in a hotel, and nothing was open And we’re like, “Well, what do people snack on?” They don’t. What? So when in Rome. That kind of made me recognize my own habits, pay attention more closely to my own hunger cues, asking myself, “Am I hungry even?”


00:12:10

Losing weight naturally in perimenopause and menopause

[00:12:10] Chalene Johnson : So this is your little reminder that it is in fact possible to lose weight after menopause, during menopause, during perimenopause. It is possible. The way that I have done it has been very, very, very, very slowly. Not linear. I’ve gone up a couple pounds, down a couple pounds. But learning about the body, learning about hormones, learning about hunger hormones, learning what things I could do naturally.

[00:12:36] Chalene Johnson : I’m not saying this to discourage anyone from doing a GLP-1, ’cause you know if you’ve tried everything. And I’ve said many, many times before that if all of these conversations were happening as readily as they are today when I was at my wit’s end, like three years ago, four years ago, you bet your bottom dollar I would’ve been on a GLP-1.

[00:12:58] Chalene Johnson : I, I just know I would’ve, because it’s really frustrating. But I also want you to know that there are alternatives. GLP-1s peptides, as a reminder, are not always just about weight loss. There are peptides for skin, hair, nails, bones, tanning, improving muscle tone, all the things. But I do wanna talk about another GLP-1.


00:13:21

Eli Lilly's new peptide, brenepatide, for addiction and IBS

[00:13:21] Chalene Johnson : This one is being tested by Eli Lilly, and if you’ve got IBS, if you’ve thought for years that you don’t necessarily… You’re not an alcoholic, but man it sure would be nice to drink less. Maybe you’ve even done my Drink Less Challenge and you’re like, “Ugh, I’m, I’m right back to it. I don’t have a problem, but I do wish I would drink less,” those kinds of things.

[00:13:41] Chalene Johnson : Maybe you have other types of cravings. Maybe it’s nicotine. Maybe you take pain medications. Maybe you shop online. What I’m talking about is addiction. So addiction and IBS, Chalene, what are you referring to? Well, Eli Lilly is testing something, a GLP-1 known as brenepatide, B-R-E-N-I-P-A-T-I-D-E, okay? It’s basically a longer acting cousin to Zepbound.

[00:14:12] Chalene Johnson : Zepbound is, of the GLPs, the one that is rumored to be the most helpful for those who drink a little too much or they have other addictive-type behaviors. And the reason why this is connected to IBS is because this GLP-1 targets the gut-brain signaling, specifically the gut-brain signaling that’s involved with IBS, irritable bowel syndrome, and it’s way more common than people realize.

[00:14:44] Chalene Johnson : A lot of people have IBS, and they don’t even realize it because they don’t realize that being irregular is not regular . Okay. So Eli Lilly is betting that this new drug is gonna help calm cravings for people, and not just cravings for food, cravings for alcohol, nicotine, opiates, things that impact our mood.

[00:15:05] Chalene Johnson : And it’s already in phase III trials, phase III trials specifically for alcohol use, and alcohol use disorder, and major depression, with additional trials that they’re looking at applying it for smoking, and opioids, and bipolar disorder, and IBS. I think this is really remarkable To finally understand how much of mood, how much of our mental health is tied to our gut health, and in just a moment, I’m gonna tell you about some wearable devices.

[00:15:39] Chalene Johnson : Like, if we just fast-forward three years from now, it is gonna be a trip how much real-time accurate information we’re gonna have at our fingertips about what’s going on with us. We’re gonna know why we’re tired. We’re gonna know how we can improve our longevity. We’re gonna know exactly how many calories we consumed.

[00:15:58] Chalene Johnson : We’re gonna know how well we sle- look, we’re gonna know so much. I need to change rooms real quick, so stay with me. Hey, I wanted to take just a moment, and I think it’s almost like a public service announcement. We talk a lot about how crazy the landscape is right now with peptides. And because a lot of people are buying them from shady places online, I think telehealth companies, some of them all get lumped into that same category, but please know this, there’s a huge difference in the types of telehealth companies that exist out there.

[00:16:32] Chalene Johnson : One of the things that makes Midi stand apart from other providers is, number one, that all of their care is provided by menopause-trained clinicians. Like, they follow evidence-based guidelines. They don’t take shortcuts. They actually practice medicine, while unfortunately, a lot of these telehealth companies, they’re now selling hormones.

[00:16:56] Chalene Johnson : They’re selling GLP-1s. Some of these telehealth companies are prescribing things that are not approved for human consumption or human use by the FDA. Now, listen, that’s called the gray market, and Midi will steer clear of that. Why? Because they wanna make sure that you and your health is number one. The difference is they don’t just sell products and prescribe.

[00:17:23] Chalene Johnson : They actually monitor, they evaluate They adjust levels, they personalize your treatment based on, like, your symptoms, like what’s going on with you, your health history, your goals, all of those things. Yes, they can help you with GLPs and semaglutides and helping you to evaluate which ones might be right for you, but if you’re looking for something that’s black market, you’re not gonna get it from Midi Health.

[00:17:44] Chalene Johnson : But what you are gonna get is exceptional care from clinicians who are specifically trained in menopause, evidence-based guidelines, and they’re gonna offer ongoing assessments. Because l- I mean, hormones are not a set it and forget it. As you age, as you go through different changes, your hormones fluctuate, and so it’s really important to have a clinician that you trust, and one, in my opinion, who actually wants to work with you to optimize the way that you age.

[00:18:12] Chalene Johnson : So whether it’s a conversation you wanna have about peptides or a prescription you’d like for a safe-for-human-use peptide, or maybe it’s getting estrogen cream for your face or having somebody order you a DEXA scan to look at your bone density, or maybe prescribing something a little bit stronger for hair growth, a clinician at Midi Health can help you with that.

[00:18:34] Chalene Johnson : Book your consultation today. You can do so by going to chalene.com/midi, M-I-D-I. Again, it’s chalene.com/midi. They accept almost all major insurance plans, and they have clinicians in all 50 states. Chalene.com/midi. All right, back to the show. This one might surprise you a little bit, especially if you’re a regular listener, because you know I try to stay above the fray.


00:19:03

Calling out "Baddie Bethany," an AI-generated Instagram account

[00:19:03] Chalene Johnson : I avoid naming names. I mean, sometimes I do on Patreon, but on the show, I would never, under normal circumstances, suggest you go to a, another creator’s page and fight my battles for me. But today’s a little different, ’cause I have a beef with another creator on Instagram that, in my opinion, is harming some of my friends.

[00:19:28] Chalene Johnson : I also think that she’s harming you. I think she’s a scammer. I think she’s misleading. I think she’s taking advantage of people, and she’s just one of many, and if we don’t start calling these people out, it just continues. Her name is Bethany, B-E-T-H-A-N-Y, Bethany. Not Bethenny Frankel. This woman goes by Badie Bethany, B-A-D-I-E, Badie Bethany on Instagram, okay?

[00:19:56] Chalene Johnson : She’s 80 years old, allegedly, and she’s absolutely stunningly gorgeous. Kind of looks like what you would assume Marilyn Monroe might look like. Oh, I’m sorry, she’s 82 years young. She’s got another account on Facebook where she goes by Baddie Betty, B-A-D-D-I-E Betty, B-E-T-T-Y. Now, she goes by a bunch of different names, and she has a bunch of different accounts.

[00:20:25] Chalene Johnson : They’re all pretty close to a million followers, and the reason why I have beef with her is because she’s not real. She’s an AI-generated profile, and it pisses me off that so many people fall for this, that she’s in her DMs suggesting skincare, plastic surgeons, and a whole bunch of other , and it just, it really annoys me.

[00:20:50] Chalene Johnson : And so I would love it if you went to this account and you reported it. The way that you can report an account on Instagram is you, you go to the profile, okay? Then there’s three little buttons in the upper right-hand corner. One of them in red, third one down, says Report. When you click on Report, it’s gonna say, “Do you wanna report a specific post or something about this account?”

[00:21:09] Chalene Johnson : Click something about this account. Then it’s gonna say, “Are they pretending to be someone else?” They may be under the minimum age or something else. Click the last option, something else, and then you’re just gonna have to pick a random reason and select it, because at the moment, Instagram does not have a feature that allows you to report an account as AI.


00:21:31

Instagram's new AI content labeling policy (Dr. Chen example)

[00:21:31] Chalene Johnson : You can only report an account if you think it is impersonating someone else. Okay, so we’re gonna report her. My hope is that Instagram is going to offer a solution soon, because as of today, Instagram made a new rule about what is allowed on their platform and what has to be identified as AI. I mean, this literally just happened today.

[00:21:55] Chalene Johnson : So here’s what it does do, and here’s what it doesn’t do. They created a new AI label, and I just went and checked a bunch of different accounts to see, okay, how well is the filter working? So one of the accounts that my mom had sent me because she was like, “Listen to this.” It’s from a doctor called Dr.

[00:22:14] Chalene Johnson : Chen, C-H-E-N, and it’s him and his wife. He’s this Chinese herbalist who is always offering advice that sounds benign. It sounds like, oh, wow, that’s really important information, and it’s partially… It’s typically has some accurate facts in it, but then a whole bunch of inaccuracies, and that’s the part that really annoys me, because you’ll start watching, and you’ll go, “Oh, okay.

[00:22:41] Chalene Johnson : Yeah, that makes sense.” And then- then you think it’s a credible source. And I think that they’re playing on stereotypes. They’re playing on trust factors. So why are accounts like this doing it? Because the bigger they get, then they can start to monetize their account, not from Instagram, but from selling unsuspecting followers or anyone else who happens up- upon their content in their direct messages.

[00:23:08] Chalene Johnson : Now, they’re not often selling in their feed. But what they’re selling is like, “Oh my gosh, you better follow this information. They’re very credible.” And then they send direct messages. They just take advantage of people, and so often these things are complete scams. Okay. So I went to Instagram to see, like, okay, is Baddie Bethany, Baddie Betty, whatever we wanna call her, is she being labeled as AI?

[00:23:29] Chalene Johnson : It does say AI creator under her account, but under some of her posts it does not. Some it does. Some it does not. So maybe the filter is getting better. Let’s go check Dr. Chen. So Dr. Chen goes also by a million different names because every time one of the accounts gets shut down, they start up a n- new one.

[00:23:51] Chalene Johnson : It just makes me mad, because they list themselves as Dan and May Chen. Now, this one is not listed- As AI creators. It’s Chen Family Wellness. I will say, I don’t have any personal knowledge if these are two real individuals who are creating fake AI content, but all of their content, all of their reels are fake.

[00:24:18] Chalene Johnson : It’s not them. They’re not standing in a grocery store doing these demonstrations. Could they have created this content, generated it from images from real people? Possibly, but it doesn’t matter because it doesn’t list the profile as being AI, and the whole account is AI. So if you click on one of the reels, it does say AI info.

[00:24:44] Chalene Johnson : That’s very interesting, so I’m gonna look into that further. That makes me suspect that they’ve probably told Instagram, “No, we’re real people, but this is just AI information.” The way this new label’s supposed to work is if you are looking at fully AI-generated content of a person, you are supposed to identify it yourself as being an AI-generated person or profile.

[00:25:11] Chalene Johnson : If you don’t or Instagram picks it up, they’re gonna label it for you. Can you dispute it? Yes, you can. Will that work? I don’t know. It’ll be interesting to see how accurate this is. My friend Kerry Sisson, go follow her ’cause she’s a real baddie. She’s 70 years old, she might be older than that now, and she looks better than all these women, and she’s actually a real human, okay?

[00:25:37] Chalene Johnson : That’s the other reason why this stuff really bugs me because, A, I don’t need to explain why it bugs, right? I mean, it bugs all of us, doesn’t it? It’s fake, it’s false, it’s taking viewership and conversations and influence from the people who really do deserve it, okay? I am happy that we’re doing this because the average person, the AI content is going to be, in a matter…

[00:26:03] Chalene Johnson : I know I keep saying this, but it does keep getting better and better and better. Within six months, I won’t be able to tell and neither will you. So we’re gonna have to have methodologies to track these things down because it’s very deceitful. So there you go. Next time you see something and you’re like, “Oh, wait a second.

[00:26:22] Chalene Johnson : Wow, that’s really interesting. I should forward this to someone else,” or like, “Oh wow, I guess I better not eat fruit that’s got this particular label on it in the grocery store.” Like, one of the videos my mom shared with me was, she was like, “Did you know that the labels on your produce tell you how the food was grown?”

[00:26:42] Chalene Johnson : Well, that’s partially true, but then in this Dr. Chen video, it went on to explain what each one of them means and how you should never eat a food that says it’s been conventionally grown because then it’s been sprayed with plastic. No, that part’s not true. In the way that they presented it. The good news is, now when you see a post that you’re like, “Wow, that was insane.

[00:27:05] Chalene Johnson : I can’t believe that baby can already do that. I can’t believe how funny that video is. I can’t believe how good that woman looks. I can’t believe how amazing that weight loss is,” a lot of this stuff is fake, and hopefully we’re gonna see platforms being more responsible about labeling it. That was Instagram’s first cross-checking that I’ve seen it.

[00:27:25] Chalene Johnson : So if you come across one of these accounts and you’re stuck, and you just don’t know if in fact it is, click on those three little dots on the profile, report it if you’re positive it is AI. There’s just no way to filter this stuff out. I looked at the post that Instagram made about the announcement, and I would say that the number one comment under the announcement was, “Will you please give us an option where we can click a button and the feed doesn’t give us AI content?”

[00:27:53] Chalene Johnson : People don’t want AI content. And I’m not talking about using AI to help you write a caption or using AI to help you edit a video. What people do not want is we don’t want to be tricked, we don’t want to be fooled. We don’t want a video that you’re pretending is you. We don’t want a photo that you’re pretending is you.


00:28:13

Instagram's July AI tagging feature backlash

[00:28:13] Chalene Johnson : And if you’re going to do that, people will trust you less, even if it is more convenient for you. Keep that in mind. Now, Instagram really messed up, in my opinion, back in July, and you might have completely missed it, but they released a new feature that somebody could type @… Let’s say you wanted to make a video about me, okay?

[00:28:38] Chalene Johnson : You could type @chalenejohnson, and then you could give Instagram instructions on what you wanted me to be doing in the video or in the photo, and then Instagram would create AI content pulling from my account. So it would use my physical traits, my face, my body, and then you could build your own brand-new image of me.

[00:29:03] Chalene Johnson : You’re like, “What the actual ?” I know. Well, Meta was like, “Oh, we just thought this would be super fun. People could use it for, like, memes of their friends or birthday cards.” Uh, yeah, that didn’t go so well. Because first of all, they didn’t clearly announce this, and they didn’t allow users to opt in or opt out.

[00:29:25] Chalene Johnson : It, they just made it available So nobody knew this was even going to happen. You had no way of protecting your own face. And get this, let’s just say you hate me and you wanted to create a video of me, I don’t know what I could be doing, but doing something that I would be mortified to be doing, or just something that was just very unflattering.

[00:29:46] Chalene Johnson : You could create that, and then you would at me, but I wouldn’t see it. There was no notification, none. If a stranger typed your handle into that tool and generated whatever they wanted, they could do so with your face, your body, and you would have no way of finding out. It just happened somewhere. It was you, but without you.

[00:30:08] Chalene Johnson : Sit on that for just a second. This is why I think it’s so important. Thank you so much for listening, and thank you so much for taking action when I suggest that you do, because our voices matter. When we do complain, when we do report accounts, when we do go back to Instagram and say like, “Wait, you cannot do this,” sometimes change really does happen.

[00:30:29] Chalene Johnson : That particular one I just told you about, you might remember, I mentioned it in a previous episode, and shortly there… I mean, it wasn’t because of my episode. It was actually because of actors and actresses who were complaining about it, about digital replicas of their brand and who they were being used.

[00:30:48] Chalene Johnson : But yeah, Instagram did take it down, but it, and it only lasted for three days. But- If people hadn’t complained, it would’ve just kept on going, and three days is a lot of days to do some damage. So just be aware that these things are still happening, and we have to pay attention. I think we will always have a love-hate relationship with technology.


00:31:10

Health tech roundup: Throne, SkinBit, Eight Sleep, Apple, Fitbit's Lufu Link

[00:31:10] Chalene Johnson : This one, this story I think is pretty interesting. It’s actually five stories in one. These are five stories that came across my feed this month that I wanted to give you an update on, because together they are indicative, I think, of where the healthcare system is going or what’s gonna be available to people.

[00:31:29] Chalene Johnson : I wanna start with explaining them. So the first one is a sensor that goes on your toilet. Okay , I know. Stay with me for a second, but this is wild. It uses basically computer vision to read what’s going in your toilet. Yeah. So it’s reading your bowel movements. It’s taking a read on how consistent you are, hydration levels, urinary patterns every single day, and you don’t have to do anything.

[00:31:59] Chalene Johnson : Now, listen, I know this sounds really gross, but also if you’ve ever had to collect a stool or urine sample, this seems like a much better alternative. I don’t know how it’s gonna handle a household where there’s a bunch of people in one household, a bunch of people using the same toilet. I don’t know how that works.

[00:32:17] Chalene Johnson : Like, do you log in that you’re the current user? I don’t know. But if you’re someone who experiences bloating or irregularity, or you’re just, like, you’re not, shall we say, regular in that area, and your doctor’s like, “So how have things been going?” I don’t know about you, but whenever I’m asked that question, I’m like, “Fine,” because I’m not talking about it.

[00:32:37] Chalene Johnson : Okay? Unless it’s, like, really, really bad. Keep an eye out for this device. It’s called Throne. I think there’s an E and an N. Throne, yes. And they just raised another $10 million in investment funds. Yeah, find that at a drugstore or maybe a Home Depot near you. Another one I think you’re gonna find interesting is called Skinbit.

[00:33:01] Chalene Johnson : This is another company that just raised $6 million. It’s a full body scan. I just recently did a full body MRI. I did a kind of an advanced version of one, different than Prenuvo. I know, like, all the influencers have been doing Prenuvo. Prenuvo, I’m sure, is great. My doctor wanted me to go do this one that isn’t necessarily attached with all of the influencers.

[00:33:24] Chalene Johnson : It’s called 3D Radiology. Surprise, surprise, I came back and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with me, so that’s good. When I went there, they’re like, “So why are you here?” I’m like, “To make sure that I’m healthy.” And that was so foreign to them. They were like, “That’s really weird. People only come here when they have something, like when they’re ill, when they have a health concern.”

[00:33:45] Chalene Johnson : I said, “Well, some of us are proactive.” This is kind of a similar concept, but it’s called the Skinbit, and it’s AI-powered scanning that basically longevity clinics and dermatologists would have access to. Here’s how it works: 20 minutes, automated body scan, and it maps out and categorizes every single mark on your body.

[00:34:06] Chalene Johnson : Give it to me right now, because the scans that I just did, they don’t do that as far as I know. This puts every single little freckle, mole, mark, everything into a database, and then it tracks how those marks might change over time, and that’s huge. I’ve had skin cancer before. Yeah, a melanoma on my thigh, and it was just before I got married.

[00:34:30] Chalene Johnson : But like I’m… I go and do a full body scan with my dermatologist, like, every six months, but it’s kind of annoying. You know what I mean? Like, you gotta get naked, you gotta bend over and spread your cheeks. I’m not kidding. You have to sit down on the examining table and they look in between every single one of your toes.

[00:34:48] Chalene Johnson : It’s very invasive. And of course, ultimately, it’s relying on what could be human error. There’s a lot of research to suggest, of course AI can make mistakes, but one thing we do know, it is far more accurate than humans Does this mean dermatologists won’t have a job? No, but I do think all of these technologies are going to impact all of us.

[00:35:15] Chalene Johnson : I don’t care and I don’t believe what the news is saying when they’re like, “Well, no, AI has not affected jobs yet.” Oh, come on. Please don’t gaslight us. Stop it already. This next one is a device that I currently own. It’s an Eight Sleep bed. Well, it’s, it’s actually not a bed. Eight Sleep is like a… Well, what do you call it?

[00:35:32] Chalene Johnson : It’s like a cover that goes over your mattress, and you guys, I have tried so many times to get this company to recognize, hello, I talk to menopausal women. Maybe I’m wrong about this, but as far as I can tell, we’re the ones that spend the money. We’re the ones that make the big buying decisions in our families.

[00:35:52] Chalene Johnson : We’re the ones that take care of the furniture, that buy the new mattress, buy the new beds. W- we’re the consumer, so it would seem… I know I’m sounding like I’m ranting right now. I guess I am. If anyone wants to send this to Eight Sleep and just remind them that we’re the ones that they should probably be talking to and listening to, and we also happen to have hot flashes and other things that disturb our sleep, and that disturbed sleep affects our mood, our cognition, and our mental health, and these things are important.

[00:36:24] Chalene Johnson : And this device, I’ve talked about… There’s, there’s other ones on the market that help to cool you down while you’re sleeping. This one is the Lamborghini. There’s no other way to describe it, and I’ve tried quite a few. But it’s awfully pricey, and I would love for Eight Sleep to hear this and say, “You know what?

[00:36:41] Chalene Johnson : We wanna sponsor the podcast,” so that I could make sure you guys had a huge discount. So can we send this to anyone who you know who happens to work at Eight Sleep? But let’s talk about what Eight Sleep is doing now. By the way, they don’t need Shalene Johnson, that’s for sure, because they are a $1.5 billion business And they’re not calling themselves a mattress company.

[00:37:01] Chalene Johnson : This is a, it’s a tracking device. This isn’t just a bed that tells you how you slept last night, it actually measures your biometrics, and it can change and fluctuate in real time while you’re sleeping, and it does for me all the time. But right now what they’re doing is they’re trying to get the FDA to approve the use of the mattress…

[00:37:24] Chalene Johnson : It’s not really a mattress, but the use of this device that goes over the top of your mattress for sleep apnea and cardiovascular applications. It’s a bed that’s really, it’s- frankly, it’s becoming a medical device. Sleep apnea in women is one of the most under-diagnosed things in medicine, because we don’t present the same way men do.

[00:37:45] Chalene Johnson : We don’t snore usually. I mean, sometimes you do, but more often than not, women just are getting lousy sleep. They’re looking at their ring device or they’re looking at something else that tracks their sleep, and they see that they’re getting lousy sleep, or maybe you just assume you got X number of hours, but you’re exhausted, you’re foggy, you’re gaining weight, you’re anxious, you’re moody, you’re feeling stressed.

[00:38:12] Chalene Johnson : And you’re thinking that it’s just your hormones, but it probably has a lot to do with sleep. This is happening and, like I said, a lot of women don’t even know that they have sleep apnea. Apple is in this now, too. They are working on a new pair of glasses, kind of like Meta, but different. So these are glasses that you could wear that don’t have…

[00:38:37] Chalene Johnson : Well, they don’t put any glass in them, because it’s not the glass that would be doing something special, it’s the frame itself. So you could put your own prescription in them, you could do whatever you want. But these are glasses that when you’re wearing them on your head, it’s actually a wearable device that’s telling you and measuring your health.

[00:38:56] Chalene Johnson : Interesting, right? I mean, yes, you can put lenses in them. I’m just saying, like, that’s not what make these glasses special. They’re not trying to sell you another recording device. This is a tracking device, very similar to what the RingConn or the Oura Ring or the Fitbit… What are some of the others? The Whoop.

[00:39:17] Chalene Johnson : Similar to what those do, however- The glasses, you wouldn’t be sleeping with them on, so it’s not gonna track your sleep. Did I mention that the Eight Sleep mattress cover, not only does it cool your whole… It’s so wild. While you’re sleeping on this mattress cover, and I’m not trying to sell you one, ’cause I can’t, I can’t even get you a discount code right now, but I’m just telling you, they’re pretty amazing, and it adjusts the temperature of the bed based on your temperature, which is trippy.

[00:39:45] Chalene Johnson : Anyways, back to the g- glasses from Apple. Obviously, you’re gonna take these off while you’re sleeping, so these Apple Glasses are not gonna track your health while you’re sleeping, so why would you want those? I think these might be an interesting option for someone who doesn’t wanna wear the tracking ring, doesn’t wanna wear the wristband or sh- any other kind of device.

[00:40:09] Chalene Johnson : It’s just an option. But speaking of wearable devices, Fitbit. Do you guys remember the days when I spoke endlessly about Fitbits? I wore a Fitbit. I think it was originally called a Bodybugg, and then it went to Fitbit. Is that right? Oh man, I hope I don’t get that wrong. I know I had a Fitbit, and I know I had a Bodybugg, and I had the Oura Ring.

[00:40:30] Chalene Johnson : I did all the things. Right now, I’m not wearing any trackable devices. The only thing I’m using right now is my bed. For me, that’s because I just felt like it was determining my mood, and I don’t even look at my sleep numbers on my mattress with the app for Eight Sleep, because when I see that I didn’t get great sleep, it dictates my mood.

[00:40:52] Chalene Johnson : I’m like, “Oh, I’m gonna be tired today.” And then there’s that power of suggestion. And I also got very caught up in my step count, and instead of thinking about, like, how active was I today, did I do intervals? So if there was a day when I was doing Japanese walking, because I alternate that a lot now, or if I was doing HIIT training, in my mind, I would feel like I hadn’t done enough, I know it’s not accurate, because I was so obsessed with my step count.

[00:41:20] Chalene Johnson : And I think for a lot of you, it’s a great place to start. That’s why I always say, don’t just do what I do. Like, understand the context and what works best for you. For me, at the moment, I’ve kind of put myself in time out because I wasn’t using my common sense as it related to step count. Okay? Okay. Back to the Fitbit.

[00:41:39] Chalene Johnson : So Fitbit launched a new company called Luffu. I think that’s how you pronounce it, L-U-F-F-U. And this is a new device that they’ve launched called Link, and it’s worn on your wrist. It’s actually quite pretty, and it combines health tracking with an AI voice, and it logs things. So it’s specifically built for our parents This is for your mom, this is for your dad, this is for your grandparents.

[00:42:07] Chalene Johnson : Now think about it, 63 million Americans right now are caregivers. That’s nearly one in four of us, and the average age of a caregiver is 49, okay? And that caregiver, on average, is spending 27 hours a week caring for or coordinating or dealing with things that they have to just kind of handle for their parents.

[00:42:33] Chalene Johnson : 27 hours a week. That’s a very busy life, in addition to your job, in addition to caring for everybody else, including yourself. So now they can wear this little device. It’s kind of like a Fitbit, but it doesn’t look like technology. It looks like jewelry. You wear it on the wrist. There’s no screen. There’s no buttons that you, you don’t have to teach them how to use an iPhone.

[00:42:56] Chalene Johnson : And it’s just lightweight, it’s made out of metal, and here’s exactly how it works. It tracks their sleep. It tracks their resting heart rate. If you have a loved one who’s in memory care, you don’t know what’s going on every single day. This tracks their heart rate variability, their breathing rate, their calories.

[00:43:14] Chalene Johnson : What? That piece had me really curious. Like, how does it track their calories? How? Doesn’t that mean that we could wear one and it would know how many calories we consumed? I gotta look into that. It also has GPS built in. Now, if you have a family member who has dementia, that’s huge. If… My parents don’t have dementia, but I don’t know where they are nine times out of 10, so I might actually like and enjoy tracking their location.

[00:43:41] Chalene Johnson : It also has LTE cellular modem, which w- uh, basically that just means it doesn’t have to be connected to a phone And that’s nice. And this part is really cool. It has a little button, and your loved one, if they are of sound mind and can follow these instructions, they can just press the button and it records a little memo, and that memo goes straight to the system.

[00:44:03] Chalene Johnson : So it will notify you if there’s something wrong, or you can just, like, listen to it. Maybe it’s your mom saying like, “Hey, I went to my doctor’s appointment today. Everything checked out great.” You know what I mean? I just think it’s nice because the person who’s wearing it doesn’t have to coordinate an app.

[00:44:17] Chalene Johnson : They don’t have to do anything that’s complicated or dealing with technology. They can just, like, press a button. And the AI that’s connected to this little device tracks everything, and it notifies you when activity is abnormal, like when suddenly they’re not getting as much sleep or it seems like patterns have changed.

[00:44:38] Chalene Johnson : It’s gonna let you know. And it’s super affordable. I think it’s, like, under 300 bucks. Obviously, it’s gonna have a, like, a monthly subscription, but I think that’s pretty interesting. Well, the product name is called Link, and it’s made by Lufu. It’s called the Lufu Link, okay? Founded by the people who founded the Fitbit.

[00:44:57] Chalene Johnson : I don’t know about you, but I’m pretty excited about all of these advancements. We are going to be bionic men and women. We’re gonna wear all these, like, little gadgets and know exactly what’s going on in our bodies, and will that impact the medical communities? I don’t know. You know what would be amazing?

[00:45:14] Chalene Johnson : Can somebody please invent a device that tells you if you’re starting to experience tooth decay? Wouldn’t that be miraculous? I’m sure there’s dentists right now saying, “Oh, please don’t do that. We want to see our patients every six months for a…” Well, you’d still need a tooth cleaning. But wouldn’t it be remarkable if you knew, like, oh, I’m starting to get a little cavity over here.


00:45:37

The 2031 journal exercise: predicting the next five years

[00:45:37] Chalene Johnson : Will you do me a favor? Wherever it is that you’re listening to this episode, I don’t want you to read anyone else’s comments, okay? You have to do this on your own. Open up a separate note on your phone. Okay, I want you to title it “2031.” That’s only five years from now. Okay, here’s the exercise. I want you to write down in your note how you think these areas are gonna be different, like work.

[00:46:02] Chalene Johnson : So I’m gonna say work is the first category. What jobs do you think five years from now are still gonna be around? What jobs do you think will disappear? What will a normal work week look like? Have you ever th- thought about that? Like, is the work week gonna expand or will it shrink? Everyday technology.

[00:46:21] Chalene Johnson : Isn’t it crazy to think about the fact that when we used to go on a trip, you would have to reach in the glove box and pull out the fricking map, and know how to read a map? And now we’re like, “What?” So how will everyday technology… What’s gonna change in five years? Will we still have phones? Will we be using apps?

[00:46:42] Chalene Johnson : What about passwords? Googling? Is this gonna be on our phone? Are we just gonna speak? Are we gonna think it in just five years from now? What about relationships? How do you think socially things will be different five years from now? Will people be getting married later, earlier? Having fewer kids, more kids?

[00:47:07] Chalene Johnson : Kids younger, kids older? Will loneliness be more prevalent, less prevalent? I know right now it feels like it’s, oh, it’s definitely gonna be more prevalent. But what if everybody loses their job because of AI, and then we spend more time with each other? I mean, there are those theories. What’s your take on these theories?

[00:47:26] Chalene Johnson : Let me give you another area I’d like to get your predictions on. What about beauty standards for women? Five years from now, where will the trend be with women’s beauty and body standards? Is it gonna be big boobs, big butts, small butts, flat butts, muscle, biceps? Like, what’s it gonna be? What’s it gonna be?

[00:47:50] Chalene Johnson : And one of the best ways to predict the future is to look at trends from the past when it comes to body and beauty. And okay, let me give you one more. Your home and transportation. Will we be driving? What things at home are gonna be easier? I know it’s, it’s a lot. It’s a big, huge question. I guess if you’re just gonna answer one of these questions, I would say, what are we doing today or what are you doing today that you have a strong suspicion five years from now we’ll barely be able to remember that we did that ourselves, because it’ll be done for us?

[00:48:38] Chalene Johnson : All right. I love you. I mean it, and I’ll talk to you soon.


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