10 Must Watch Documentaries + Honest Money Talk & Miami Gym Life

[00:00:00] Chalene Johnson : Hey, before we get too far, I know I’ve talked a lot about the supplements that I take in powder form. There’s a lot of them, and there’s, of course, the things I take in capsule form, but I also take a few things in gummy form. And one of the things that I started taking about a year ago, actually when we were in Europe last year, is saffron.

[00:00:21] Chalene Johnson : And I started taking it because I heard about quite a few studies that demonstrated that saffron made significant improvements in people’s… their ability to reduce their anxiety, to feel more relaxed, to have mental clarity, and of course, that’s gonna improve your sleep, right? Because that’s one of the main reasons why so many of us struggle to sleep at night.

[00:00:47] Chalene Johnson : You lay down and your brain just doesn’t stop spinning. So anyways, I looked into it. You know me, I love to see a good study, and there’s been a ton of them. In fact, April through July 2025, this is brand new, a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study looking at the impact of taking saffron daily for just three months, and the results I can tell you were pretty astonishing.

[00:01:16] Chalene Johnson : A marked decrease in depression, anxiety, and stress. 72.3% of the participants in the saffron group achieved significant improvements on their mental state, so talking about having less anxiety, and of course, that I think is one of the reasons why it contributes to fewer sleep disturbances for those especially who are taking the saffron.

[00:01:39] Chalene Johnson : So listen, I’m definitely not telling you to go off your SSRIs, and if you’re on an antidepressant, that’s awesome. But if you’re one of those people who you’ve been thinking like, “I don’t know. I don’t know what it is, I just… I don’t feel as happy as I usually am,” or, “I just feel kinda meh,” you know what I’m talking about.

[00:01:56] Chalene Johnson : You can’t put your finger on it, but you’re like, “I’m just not as happy,” or, “Maybe I’m dealing with more anxiety,” or, “Things are bugging me more than they usually do.” You’ve heard me talk about Organifi for years, and Organifi came out with a saffron gummy that’s actually very, very tasty. So I am going to encourage you, if, if you’re already a customer of Organifi, next time you go to place an order, go to organifi.com/chalene.

[00:02:24] Chalene Johnson : Use code Chalene. That always gets you 20% off. I take their Immunity daily. I take Pure daily. I take their collagen daily. All of these things are on the regular, and again, I started taking the Happy Drops. I don’t take those daily, but I’d say I take them, like, three, four times a week And I’ve noticed a difference.

[00:02:48] Chalene Johnson : So I want you to check them out. Try them the next time you’re over at Organifi, or, or just go there right now. Go to organifi.com/chalene. You get 20% off when you use code Chalene, and we love Organifi. So it’s O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com/chalene for 20% off. What it do, boo? Happy Friday if you’re listening to this in real time.

[00:03:11] Chalene Johnson : Real quick, before we get into today’s episode, I wanna mention I’m a little under the weather. Just thought I’d tell you. Not for sympathy, you know I don’t like to have that, but mainly because I’m trying to give you examples of ways that I’m trying to turn a new leaf and really honor the fact that sometimes your body needs to rest, and your brain is telling you, “Oh, no, I have to do this thing.”

[00:03:38] Chalene Johnson : And then you just stop yourself and you go, “But do I really? Do I really?” And the answer today is I need to take care of my own capacity. I did a speaking event today, and one of the things I talked about is how AI, technology, all these things make our lives and our businesses and our decisions all happen so much faster, and the world is moving faster, and technology is just…

[00:04:02] Chalene Johnson : it’s a crazy capacity. But the one thing we still have to think about is our personal capacity, because our personal capacities are not unlimited. And frankly, today mine has reached a max. I got a little hint of a fever. Nothing major, but you know how you feel when you have a fever. However, I am well enough to give you something a little different.

[00:04:24] Chalene Johnson : The first thing I’m gonna do is rapid fire give you some seriously you cannot miss these documentaries for this weekend. And I’m not talking about the same three documentaries that everybody’s talking about because they came out this month. Obviously, I always release those on Sundays on the Snapshot newsletter.

[00:04:44] Chalene Johnson : But, uh, I found, in this list I’m gonna share with you, some documentaries that are just absolute hidden gems. They won awards. They’re the kind of shows that stay with you for a long time. Like, really, really great documentaries. So I’m gonna share those with you, and then we’re gonna talk about money. And the second half, again, because I really need to rest, thank you for understanding, is a snippet, a segment- that I originally had, um, between friends, my Patreon.

[00:05:18] Chalene Johnson : This isn’t the kind of thing I would normally put on the show, and I’m gonna tell you it is because it makes me feel a little awkward. I just wouldn’t put it on the regular show. It’s my personal thoughts and feelings, and yeah, I do worry that people will judge and feel like it’s unrelatable or just, I don’t know.

[00:05:37] Chalene Johnson : Like, there’s something about talking about money that for all of us, for our own different reasons, can be uncomfortable. It’s shaped by our childhood and what we watched our parents do, what we’ve experienced ourself, maybe things that we were taught, things that we weren’t taught, things that we’ve picked up, our own beliefs.

[00:05:54] Chalene Johnson : I think you’re gonna really enjoy that part, this whole episode actually. I hope that you do. All right. Don’t cry for me, Argentina. I’m gonna be just fine. We have a lot to get to, so let’s do that. Okay, as promised, I wanna start with two documentaries that these are not new, but they are not well-known, and these two are absolute must-watch.

[00:06:18] Chalene Johnson : The first one is called Wildcat. Oh my God, this was so freaking good. It’s about a veteran who, I think he’s from the UK, but he experienced a lot of trauma, so he’s got a lot of PTSD. He’s a young kid, like so young. When you watch the show, you understand some of the things that he experienced in battle because he talks about it.

[00:06:40] Chalene Johnson : But he heads into the jungle to raise an orphan baby wildcat that is the cutest freaking thing that you’ve ever seen, and he kind of does it like to go off the grid and to heal himself, and he meets this freaking gorgeous girl, in my opinion, who is overseeing the whole project. Their story becomes two separate stories.

[00:07:04] Chalene Johnson : It’s just so good, and you’re gonna fall in love with this wildcat. It’s amazing. It’s so, so good. Wildcats is on Prime Video, which is Amazon. By the way, I will list all of these in our show description so you don’t have to memorize them. The next one is another one that I didn’t know about, but apparently it was like documentary of the year for several different organizations.

[00:07:29] Chalene Johnson : It is a documentary called The Remarkable Life of Ibelin. I-B-E-L-I-N. I mean, I almost skipped this one because I know nothing about World of Warcraft. In fact, just knowing that it was gonna involve some gaming, I’m like, “That’s just not my thing at all.” No offense, but like I just… I don’t get it. No, do not skip this one.

[00:07:51] Chalene Johnson : Do not make this mistake. It’s about this young man who had a devastating disability that eventually robbed him of the use of his muscles, and it left him in a wheelchair, and his parents were just devastated that he couldn’t experience love and friendship and like all the things that other kids, able-bodied kids were able to do.

[00:08:16] Chalene Johnson : The only thing… Eventually, his world like shrunk down to just World of Warcraft, or so they thought And they discover after they post to a forum to let his gaming friends know that he had passed, that this guy had had this incredible impact on hundreds of people’s lives in a way their parents could have never imagined.

[00:08:41] Chalene Johnson : And then you get to hear all the different people’s stories, and they recreate his life that he was living for, like, 10 years in the game. Again, I don’t know anything about gaming, and I found it absolutely riveting. A new documentary came out this week on Netflix. It’s called The Widower. Girl, you will not believe this guy.

[00:09:05] Chalene Johnson : It’s insane. This story is insane. Six marriages. Let’s see, four of those marriages ended up with the wife dying? Hmm, interesting. He actually gets tried for murder for the death penalty twice. Dude, twice. It’s so well done. I’ve never seen anything like it because basically there was a journalist who had been following him for, like, almost 20 years, and there was a, a detective who was on the case for, like, 20 years, and I’m not gonna give away all of the twists and turns, but this one is crazy, as most true crimes are.

[00:09:43] Chalene Johnson : But, you know, a lot of times true crimes are so gross or upsetting or triggering that not everybody likes true cri- This is not… I don’t wanna say it’s not gross and triggering, but, like, not in a normal way. Do you know what I mean? Like, really what’s interesting about it is just, like, how psychotic this guy is One that came out this week on Peacock, which I would give a very, very high score, is called Kill Barry.

[00:10:10] Chalene Johnson : I almost said Bury. Kill Barry Prince, okay? On Peacock. This is one about a family-run newspaper, I believe it was in Oklahoma. Oklahoma. Oklahoma, Brett says. Relatively new story. They start investigating this local sheriff and his team, and they… Oh my God, the things that they find out. And these local officials actually plot to have this family-owned newspaper, the people who own it, killed.

[00:10:44] Chalene Johnson : It’s a little bit of like, wow, so this is what’s happening in certain areas of the country. It just feels so backwards, and you’re like, “No way.” Yep, yes way. Okay, here’s another one. Let me tell you, this one is a I’m begging you to watch it. I’m begging you, okay? Do you remember the story about the kids in, I believe it was Thailand, who got trapped in a cave, and then the caves all flooded, and that left them, like, two miles down, like, a flooded…

[00:11:19] Chalene Johnson : I’m not even sure what you would call it, almost like a, like a underground river. And they got s- trapped in this, like, little crevice, and they had been there for, like, 16 days. Do you remember this story? I know you do. Okay, I remember it, but I had no idea how they got the boys out, like, what actually went into it, and it is remarkable.

[00:11:38] Chalene Johnson : It is the power of prayer. It is the power of medicine. It’s the power of, like, citizens who had to come in and rescue these boys when the Navy SEALs couldn’t even do it. It is so cool, and I’m not gonna tell you exactly how it ends or how they get them out, but that’s the part that you’re gonna go, “Holy guacamole Okay, this is a quickie.

[00:12:00] Chalene Johnson : Again, it’s a true crime, but each of the episodes is like 20, 30 minutes and I think sometimes you need one of those. It’s like you need to go to bed but you’re also like, “Eh, I’m not really ready to go to bed yet, I don’t wanna get into something that’s another two hours long. I need something quick.” Here you go.

[00:12:15] Chalene Johnson : It’s on Netflix and it’s called I Survived a Serial Killer, and each one of these stories is a different installment about a different serial killer and you’re hearing from one of the survivors who got away. And the reason why this, I think, in my opinion, is something you need to watch because even though the stories are terrifying, each and every, in most cases, each and every woman who survived, there’s like through lines about instinct and emotional intelligence and timing and fighting and like just fighting for your life, the courage to survive.

[00:12:49] Chalene Johnson : There’s like 16 episodes. The first one is phenomenal. There’s a few others that are good, like skip around, but again because they’re all really short so I like being able to return to a, a series like this. Like the fact that there’s, you know, 16 of them, anytime you need a quick 20 minutes of true crime, there you go.

[00:13:06] Chalene Johnson : The Swan on Hulu. That one is, it’s called Behind the Mirror. I know you remember the documen- or the reality TV show called The Swan. This is a show where people would sign up for this makeover show, remember it? And they would get hours and hours and hours of surgery. Like they would remake their entire bodies.

[00:13:26] Chalene Johnson : They would have them go on diets, they would have them work out, they would change their hair color, they would give them pageant lessons. They would do photo shoots, they would do like, you know, all these things like veneers, like completely change them. And then sometimes they would bring them out and reveal them to their family, but the thing that people didn’t realize that they were signing up for is a pageant.

[00:13:48] Chalene Johnson : Literally a pageant that was never mentioned to them. And so now we’re hearing from the women who are revealing what it actually cost them and what actually happened to them. This is an interesting one. Should I Marry a Murderer? Netflix. This is one where you meet this woman, she’s fallen in love with this guy.

[00:14:14] Chalene Johnson : This is not where you think it’s gonna go. She’s fallen in love with this guy, I mean it’s just like the love of her life and he’s like, “I trust you so much, I need to tell you about this, this thing that happened.” And he tells her this story and she’s like, “Oh, this is horrific but I love him so much I think I wanna stay with him.”

[00:14:35] Chalene Johnson : Like people make mistakes. It was like an accidental killing if you will. The longer she stays with him, the more she realizes, “Wait, I don’t think this is e- exactly what he said it was.” And then she ends up deciding to secretly help the police, but is still with him and still very much in love with him, and it’s just like this emotional rollercoaster and she’s being like very, I guess you could say, vulnerable and honest, also disgusted with herself.

[00:15:10] Chalene Johnson : And so you’re hearing like her really reveal her whole state of mind and why she did the things that she did, and just the recounting the whole thing. At first, you just … You’re rooting for her, and then you think she’s an idiot, then you’re rooting for her again. Then you th- like you’re gonna change your mind 15 times watching that one.

[00:15:30] Chalene Johnson : Okay? Oh, that’s a good one. I already told you to watch the AI documentary, right? I know I did. It’s on Netflix, and it’s called The AI Doc, or How I Became an AI Apocalypse. Apoc- Apocalyptist. Apoc- I can’t pronounce that word. I think it’s a made-up word. Okay, so it’s on Netflix. It’s really good. It’s made for someone who’s got ADHD.

[00:15:52] Chalene Johnson : It’s made for someone who’s not at all interested in technology. Trust me, you’ll love it A Killer Story. This is on HBO Max. This one was wild too. This is the last one, okay? It’s got everything. It’s a double murder with no forensic evidence, three trials. There was misconduct by her attorneys. She eventually gets tried again.

[00:16:16] Chalene Johnson : The thing about this documentary that’s so interesting is there’s this couple, they’re not at all related to this murder, but they’re kind of like citizen journalists, and they end up devoting their entire lives, we’re talking like 15 years of their lives, believing that this woman has been wrongfully charged and wrongfully convicted.

[00:16:39] Chalene Johnson : They devote their entire lives to helping her find justice. All I can say is this is a very good example of confirmation bias. I’m gonna leave it at that. And I think there’s so much of that in the media where people just, you believe one way, and that’s all you’re gonna get served up in the algorithm, and that’s kind of what happened to law enforcement, that’s what happened to this couple.

[00:17:05] Chalene Johnson : This is what happened to, like, so many people involved in that show, in this documentary. It’s a true story. Allow me to take just a moment to interrupt myself to talk to you about your skin. As we age, one of the things at least that I found most frustrating was just looking down at my skin and going like, “What happened?

[00:17:22] Chalene Johnson : What is going on?” You know, as we start to lose collagen and estrogen, your skin texture and the way that it holds moisture, it completely changes. I was drenching myself in lotions and just not seeing a difference. And then I had a friend recommend a product called OneSkin. You’ve heard me talk about it before.

[00:17:41] Chalene Johnson : This stuff makes a huge difference, so if that’s something you’re struggling with, just skin that feels really dry or crepey Trust me when I say you wanna try OneSkin. I love their full body lotion. It just goes on so nicely. It’s light. There’s no fragrance. There’s no toxic ingredients. That’s very, very important.

[00:18:00] Chalene Johnson : It works wonderfully for sensitive skin. It’s been dermatologist tested, and the stuff is just amazing. It’s loaded with peptides, so you’re just gonna feel a difference. Trust me when I say this. But here’s the key. This is my recommendation. This is girlfriend to girlfriend. Get the SPF tinted moisturizer for your face.

[00:18:17] Chalene Johnson : It is amazing. I’ve tried a bunch of tinted SPFs, and I didn’t feel like they were tinted. Do you know what I mean? Like, this literally kinda smooths out your complexion. You don’t even need to wear makeup, I swear. I’m saying that, then you know it’s really good. I also love their full body SPF, which is really important if you’re out walking in the sun or even if you’re just exposed in the snow.

[00:18:39] Chalene Johnson : You’re still getting exposed to sun, and you wanna make sure that your face stays nice and young. You don’t want age spots or sunspots, and OneSkin has amazing products. Because they are a show sponsor, you get a nice little discount. Go to chalene.com/spf. It’s also a wonderful way to support the show, and I really appreciate that.

[00:18:58] Chalene Johnson : Again, it’s chalene.com/spf, but you can find all of their products from that link. Check it out Now we’re gonna move on to this conversation. It’s very recent. I started off by explaining, like, what’s going on in our condo in Miami. I talked a little bit in the beginning of this episode. We’ll probably cut it out, but I shared a little bit about what was happening at our house in California.

[00:19:26] Chalene Johnson : Now, the condo in Miami, we don’t own it. We’re leasing it. Update: since I’ve recorded this, we are moving. We’re gonna be moving the 1st of November. And these are the kinds of things that I typically will talk about on Patreon. That is, I’m just gonna be honest, because I feel like I can share a little bit more about my opinion, my own beliefs, without fear of radical judgment.

[00:19:54] Chalene Johnson : Like, obviously everyone has their own opinions and everyone judges. Like, everybody does. Don’t say that you don’t. Everybody does. But there’s something about that community where I know that even if people completely disagree, they’re gonna be polite about it. They’re gonna be like, “You know, that’s not h- what I think, but, you know, you’re entitled to feel that way.”

[00:20:11] Chalene Johnson : So I tend to be very open and very raw and unfiltered, and that’s what you’re about to hear. If you enjoy this, I wanted to also let you know, I don’t think we’ve ever done this. We’re offering a Patreon membership for 50% off. I don’t think we’ve ever done that. It’s for a limited time offer. I sound like a commercial now.

[00:20:31] Chalene Johnson : But it’s only for the month of October, so hurry up. All you do is go to chalene.com/more, then you need to enter code Chalene, okay? Code Chalene gets you 50% off. 50% off means that’s $3.50. Or if you wanna do the vault, it’s $12.50. My recommendation to you would be to sign up for the vault, okay? Because the vault gives you so much more content.

[00:21:01] Chalene Johnson : It gives you everything, plus the deepest, most raw content. It gives you the stuff from both Brett and I. It gives you access to all of my past deep dives that I’ve done. If you don’t like it, you can cancel, or if you don’t like it, you can change and to become a Between Friends Patreon member. Again, it’s 50% off.

[00:21:21] Chalene Johnson : It’s just for the month. If you choose to stay in our community, then your following month will be at the regular price. But why not take advantage of testing it out and see if it’s something that you enjoy? You can do so right now at 50% off. All right. Let’s get to the rest of the show. But sometimes I’m like, are other people’s problems interesting?

[00:21:42] Chalene Johnson : Like, is what we’re dealing with with our California house, do you wanna know about that? Happy to explain all of it, because… And I also think there’s always an opportunity To share these kinds of stories and you’re like, “Oh, that actually helped because we’re going through that too.” Or maybe it’s just interesting because, I don’t know, I guess I find it interesting when people are struggling with

[00:22:06] Chalene Johnson : But we are. I mean, the California house- And Brett’s really been dealing with it, oh my God. He was in the worst, sorry honey, if you’re listening, he was in the worst mood today. Like, his eyebrows were midway down his nose, he w- they were so furrowed. I was, like, gonna go over and, like, push his eyebrows up two inches.

[00:22:24] Chalene Johnson : Like, dude. Plus, I think both of us have our nervous system on the outside of our bodies, like it’s sitting outside of our bodies, because of the drilling. The sound is deafening. I don’t know if you saw my Instagram stories. We can’t get out of the house quick enough, so we get dressed, we get ready. Like, sometimes we have to wait for a, a plumber to show up or there’s something else going on in the house, and so we, like, can’t leave the moment the construction starts, but you want to because it is so loud you can’t even imagine.

[00:23:01] Chalene Johnson : I went up on the rooftop. I think it’s louder in our unit because there’s, like, an echo. But somebody commented in the vault, forgive me, I forgot who it was that said this. It said, “You know, like, it’s a testament to the type of mentality that it takes to be wealthy.” And I don’t know why that makes me feel uncomfortable sometimes.

[00:23:21] Chalene Johnson : I know why, actually, to call myself wealthy, but we are in relative terms, and it makes me feel uncomfortable because it feels unrelatable. Because then I feel like I’m trying to place myself in a different category. I don’t think it changes anything about who we are or what I’m like or doesn’t make you a better person or a lesser, any of those things.

[00:23:45] Chalene Johnson : And I think I know that, but I guess I worry sometimes when I talk about our investments or I talk about our lifestyle or I talk about our wealth, it is gross or it’s, I don’t know, off-putting. Or it might make some people assume that I think better of us, but I don’t. I don’t. And Brooke was telling me recently, she goes, “Will you stop saying ‘I don’t care about money?'”

[00:24:12] Chalene Johnson : I mean, I guess I do, so I have to find a better way of stating this. Not that I don’t care about money, everybody cares about money What I mean by that is it doesn’t make me a better person, it doesn’t necessarily… Like, it’s just, it’s not that thing that I’m after, but it’s nice to have. And I guess I, I say I’m not after it.

[00:24:33] Chalene Johnson : I don’t chase it, but I also know my value, right? Like, so I’m not gonna do things that are stupid or that would make me lose money or that allow people to take advantage of me for my money. I do think of money oftentimes as a score. I don’t need money because I think it makes me better than somebody else or I have to prove anything to anyone.

[00:24:56] Chalene Johnson : I like money because I like nice sheets and I like to take nice vacations and I like solving problems. I like having options. That’s the best part about having money, is being able to solve problems, your own and other people’s. You know, we had someone who called us today who was dealing with an unexpected situation with their pet, and we were like, “Hey, listen, this should not even be a question.

[00:25:25] Chalene Johnson : Like, this shouldn’t even be stressful, and it’s a non-issue, so we’re gonna help you with this.” You know what I mean? Like, that I love, and that I care about. So there you go. But somebody commented, a Vault member, and said, you know, it does take a different type of mentality sometimes to deal with the problems that come with being wealthy.

[00:25:51] Chalene Johnson : What she wrote was, like, really nice, and I really appreciate it, and it made me think twice. And I… You know, because people do say, “More money, more problems.” We had a guy, this is some little story for you. We had this guy that worked for us, one of the few guys that worked for us. This is many years ago. I can tell you this story because it’s public.

[00:26:12] Chalene Johnson : He put it on his YouTube. So when he was, I think probably around, like, 12 years old, he knew he was gay. He knew he was gay from, like, the jump, but he always hid it. He was a dancer. Him and his sister were, like, these amazing little, tiny, what do you call those dan- like, ballroom dancers. Like, they won week after week after week after week.

[00:26:36] Chalene Johnson : Okay. He’s a dancer, his sister’s a dancer, mom’s a performer. He knows he’s gay from the time he’s, you know, very young. His father was an entrepreneur, and he just rem- always remembered his father really struggling with the highs and lows of entrepreneurship, and also, like, the problems that would come with those highs and lows.

[00:26:58] Chalene Johnson : Unfortunately, his father got into deep financial trouble The family was, it was unexpected, and I don’t remember the specifics of it, and he may not have even known them as well, but like the father was so ashamed of some decision that he had made that put them in this situation that he committed suicide in the family home And I had all these conversations with this guy that worked for us about that, and he really shaped his beliefs around money.

[00:27:40] Chalene Johnson : Like, we all have money memories. We all have experiences that have shaped our relationship with money, and, uh, you know, I’ve talked a lot of times about mine, and sometimes you don’t work through those, and sometimes they stay with you and they become your self-limiting beliefs. And for him, they absolutely were.

[00:27:59] Chalene Johnson : In his mind, subconsciously, making money, becoming more successful would mean that he would have depression, that he would lose it, that it would bring all these problems. That everything he did, frankly, and I still follow him, at a certain point, he would get there, and he would self-sabotage because subconsciously he believes that becoming successful would mean his downfall.

[00:28:32] Chalene Johnson : Isn’t that interesting? Anyways, more money, more problems was– Like, he would say that all the time. Like, “More money, more problems.” And I actually think that there is some truth to that because as you make more money, your life does get more complicated. It can. And then the stakes get higher, right? Like, the problems get bigger, and then you have more things you have to manage.

[00:28:54] Chalene Johnson : You have more things you have to protect. You become more of a target. Sometimes, you know, you have a lot more to lose. But here’s the part that I think puts it all into perspective. You also have so many more resources to be able to solve those problems if you have the right mindset. I think that some people get to a place where, you know, they make the money, and then they don’t understand that they also have to use their money sometimes to solve their problems, and they become shortsighted.

[00:29:28] Chalene Johnson : They become, I wanna say stingy, but you have to believe that more is coming back to you. You have to believe, like, this is just energy. That’s how I think of money. Money’s just energy, so if I give the world energy, I’m gonna get so much energy back. You know, it’s kind of like tithing. It’s just energy. But, like, also getting into a legal battle is very stressful, no matter how much money you have, and imagine facing that same type of stress when you can’t afford an attorney, when you can’t even afford to fi- You can’t afford to take the risk even when you know you’re right I’ve talked about how with, uh, doctors who, when something horrible happens to a patient- Mm-hmm

[00:30:13] Chalene Johnson : doctors can come at them and say, “Okay, well, if you say anything I’m gonna sue you for defamation,” even if you know that you were harmed, you were maimed, you were wronged. To think about, I don’t have hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend myself against false allegations, you know what I mean? So having to suddenly move is a nightmare.

[00:30:32] Chalene Johnson : Of course it is, but it’s also completely different kind of nightmare if you don’t have the money to pay for an extra security deposit, right? Or movers, or the first and last month’s rent when your first and last month’s rent for the last place has not been returned. Our current landlords right now, they have $100,000 of our money that is, does not include the rent that we owe next month You know what I’m saying?

[00:31:02] Chalene Johnson : And so, but anyways, back to more money, more problems. Money sometimes can buy you time. It can buy you expertise. It can give you the ability to recover from mistakes. It allows you to absorb blows that otherwise can completely derail some people. It gives you options if there’s something you don’t wanna do, or it relieves inconveniences.

[00:31:27] Chalene Johnson : Okay, so yeah, like I said, major inconvenience that we have to move again. That’s a challenge we might not otherwise have, but it’s not that big of a deal. Like, you know, we were talking to one of our friends the other night, and they were like, “Oh man, we’re so sorry you have to go through this.” And I, I felt really guilty that they even said that because they’re dealing with, you know, my girlfriend’s dad has cancer, terminal cancer.

[00:31:54] Chalene Johnson : I’m like, “This is nothing. This is just called life. Who cares?” And I’m, I’m not just saying that, you guys. Like, it’s life. You will always have some kind of a bull thing you gotta be dealing with, right? There’s always some bull you gotta deal with. But if, what a great position we’re in that we’re, you know, we’ve got some bull we have to deal with, but we have the money to deal with it.

[00:32:15] Chalene Johnson : It just keeps things interesting, and it puts life in perspective. Brett today goes, “I just looked to see if we could get on a flight back to Europe and just go ignore all of these things.” But we don’t wanna do that because you know why? Because we have to deal with Penelope’s surgery. Miss Penelope still has cancer surgery that we have to have scheduled, and she has an eye ulcer.

[00:32:37] Chalene Johnson : And how lucky are we that we brought home a Pound Princess who every single week has a new $1,000 issue to solve? Because even the most perfect princess comes with, as I say, life is fair. You have to deal with these things. You’re not gonna get a perfect dog that doesn’t have something. You know what I mean?

[00:32:59] Chalene Johnson : That wouldn’t make any sense. The part about building wealth, it is worth the discomfort in my opinion, and it often requires a different mindset, right? Like getting there usually means you’ve gotta develop a different kind of relationship with uncertainty, a different kind of relationship with belief in yourself, a different kind of relationship with faith.

[00:33:21] Chalene Johnson : I think, I think you have to be willing to bet on yourself. You have to be willing to let go of it because you know it’s coming back You have to be able to tolerate risk. You have to be able to, like, stay in it when it gets uncomfortable. Like, there are times when, for example, the market drops and drops and drops and drops, and Brett will say, like, “Well, we lost…”

[00:33:50] Chalene Johnson : I’m not kidding. He’s, he’s said this on many occasions. “Well, we lost $1.3 million today.” And he’ll say, “On paper.” And I’m like, “Phew, good thing it’s only on paper.” And then the next day he’ll say, you know, or not the next day, but, like, you know, whatever. He- There’s been times when he’s like, “Well, we, we made a million dollars on paper today.”

[00:34:10] Chalene Johnson : Like, you just have to be willing to know that it’s just energy. That’s all. And not everyone starts with that mindset. We had to learn it. But if you can develop it, and I think developing it isn’t just a mindset. Like, you develop the mindset by educating yourself. Why’d I say educating? By educating yourself, right?

[00:34:30] Chalene Johnson : Like, the more you learn, and the more mistakes you make, and then you correct and you’re like, “Oh, okay,” then those mistakes and those successes, that changes your mindset, right? Like, you just can’t believe that money eliminates problems. It doesn’t. It sometimes can create more, but it also for sure, without a doubt, gives you way more options, and I wouldn’t trade where we are today versus times when I felt heart palpitations when I had to pull out my credit card.

[00:35:04] Chalene Johnson : I still, even to this day, when our credit card, this happened many times in Europe, would get declined, I still have that same feeling, and I knew it was getting declined because we were traveling and it was just, like, an American Express– Like, they hate American Express over in Europe. But like, you know, I knew that we’ve got the funds.

[00:35:22] Chalene Johnson : I knew that there’s not a balance on that particular card. But it still brings all that back. It’s like right underneath the surface. So whatever the problem comes, whatever comes my way You’ll solve it. You just have to have that kind of faith in yourself. Anyways, all that to say, , you know that I hate sympathy, and especially sympathy if I don’t need it because somebody else does.

[00:35:46] Chalene Johnson : And trust me, this is no big deal. It’s an inconvenience, but most inconveniences, for me, make me money. When Roberto slipped off the side of that yacht and right into the ocean, and I watched the captain dive in after him, and I glanced up on the deck of the yacht from the dinghy, and I see Warren up there, not worried, pulling out his iPhone to film it.

[00:36:16] Chalene Johnson : I’m like, “Okay, good. Yep, we are on the same page. This is not a disaster. This is Patreon content.” And so maybe that’s what you need to do. Maybe y’all need to get a Patreon because when goes wrong, which it will, you can be like I am, and you can go, “Well, at least I have something to talk about this week.”

[00:36:37] Chalene Johnson : Thank the Lord that there’s some crazy in my life, ’cause if there wasn’t, why would anyone want to listen to the Patreon? Thank you for those who asked about, like, you know, what is it like getting back into the swing of things. I feel like I am back in the swing of things, back to the workout, back to, you know…

[00:36:56] Chalene Johnson : Again, the whole condo thing has been a disruption, but it is nice to get back to the gym. It’s nice to eat your normal food, although Brett has not been cooking much for me. I don’t know what’s up with that. He said he’s getting into beast mode. He announced that on the flight home from Europe. He’s like, “I’m fat.”

[00:37:16] Chalene Johnson : He saw his rogue video. I’m like, “No, you’re not. Are you joking? You look so good.” And he’s like, “No, I’m not. I gotta get shredded. We are getting into beast mode.” And I’m like, “Speak for yourself. I’m already in beast mode.” I’m just maintaining beast mode. I just need to, I need to thicken up my glutes. I’m trying to meet with this personal trainer next week, ’cause I, I feel like I’ve reached a limit with my glutes because I have some bad habits that relate to my avulsion.

[00:37:43] Chalene Johnson : I’m cheating part of my rep and… Anyways, I… It doesn’t matter. This is boring. But I do have some imbalances and I just, I realize, like, the glutes are not gonna get stronger unless I figure out how to fix my form, where I can feel that I’m cheating because I have a weakness at a joint angle. Does that make sense?

[00:38:04] Chalene Johnson : Like, because of my hamstring avulsion, that, like, there’s a place where when I’m doing a hamstring curl, that the muscle, like, literally I have to cheat it. I almost have to swing the weight, if that makes sense. Anyways, back to Brett. Yeah. So he’s in beast mode and I’m like, “I’m not in beast mode.” Like, I sent him a text today.

[00:38:20] Chalene Johnson : I’m like, “Are we gonna have lunch or not? Are you feeding me?” Like it’s his responsibility. “Are you feeding me or not?” What’s going on here? I am not in beast mode. I’m in protein mode. I’m in growth mode. M- I’m happy with my body fat. I don’t care about my weight, but I’m happy with my body fat. But I, I do…

[00:38:40] Chalene Johnson : You know, the, the number that I keep looking at is muscle. Like, can I put on more muscle? It just feels like such a challenge at this age. To see that number go up, it’s so difficult. Back to the commentary at the gym. So when I walk into the gym, I go out onto the deck, and our deck here in Miami, we have a shirts optional rule.

[00:39:02] Chalene Johnson : And let me tell you, all of the thirst buckets hang out on this deck. So they, they have these, like, units where you can go in and go into the sauna, and you wear your bathing suit, right? So you change into your bathing suit, and you’re supposed to put a robe on, and then, like, walk through the gym. So weird.

[00:39:20] Chalene Johnson : Walk through the whole gym in your robe. Now, you know that I work out at, like, thirst bucket central, and I’m the oldest thirst bucket there. And they’re all Miami thirst buckets, which is, like, a whole nother level. It’s a level of which you have not seen before. The new look or the, the style for the women, I…

[00:39:40] Chalene Johnson : This just happened when I came back from Europe. They’re wearing little… And it’s all, they’re all black, the tops that they’re wearing. Black triangle tops, like black bikini triangle tops. Four sizes too small so that there is major underboob showing, and then your leggings or your shorts or whatever. But they’re all wearing, like, black bikini tops with the underboob.

[00:40:04] Chalene Johnson : Okay. I’m like, “When did this memo go out? I did not get it.” And I won’t be adhering to this memo because I don’t need my underboob showing at all. Like, I had to have… That’s the area where they did my breast lift, and that’s the area where the doctor who shall not be named did massacre. So, like, my doctor’s done a great job, Dr.

[00:40:26] Chalene Johnson : Hidalgo, repairing it, but I don’t need underboob. It would just be under scars. Like, why, why would I want to be, you know, putting my scars on display? So there’s that, number one. Number two, what I noticed coming back to the gym, is all the dudes are the same color. All these bros are on Melanotan, 4 sure, and they’re all jacked.

[00:40:53] Chalene Johnson : Like, this is not normal to see this many men in their 40s This tan and ripped, who I saw three months ago and they didn’t have abs. Now they’re all out on the deck with their shirts off because it’s shirts optional. Well, no, none of, not one of them has a shirt on. They’re all doing Retta, Melanotan, Tessa Moreland, Epamoreland, HGH.

[00:41:19] Chalene Johnson : They’re all look like little brown ninja turtles. Like, they’re all under 5’8″. Sorry, no offense to my short kings. I’m like, “What is up with all these brown bulbous turtle men? Why are they all out here with their shirts off? They’re so weird.” And tanning is just for women. Okay, we have certain rules that are okay for our gays.

[00:41:44] Chalene Johnson : Like, listen, Warren knows if he dares show up to whatever it is we’re gonna do together pasty white, terminated. We are no longer friends. Don’t show up all, ugh, Irish and thin-skinned and veiny. No. Get tan or don’t even show up to this party. But for straight men, straight men that go to tanning salons or tanning booths or use, what do you call it?

[00:42:15] Chalene Johnson : Self-tanner. Ew, no. Stop it. That’s ours. Don’t do that. There’s a lot of things. The other thing I saw guys doing at our gym in Anatomy today was taking gym selfies. And you know the, the selfie that they take? I know where this photo goes because I have a lot of girlfriends who are on the dating apps, and this is the photo.

[00:42:36] Chalene Johnson : I, I saw the photo in action today. So what they do is they, they stand in front of a mirror and they kind of flex, and then they hold the phone down by their stomach, right? And they don’t look into the mirror, they look down at the phone. Okay, do it. Do it right now. You know exactly what I’m talking about.

[00:42:52] Chalene Johnson : So they’re holding the phone, and their elbows are out to the side, and they’re flexing, and they’re trying to pull their lats forward. And I’m watching this happen in the gym today, I’m like, “Don’t do that. No.” Men aren’t allowed to take gym selfies. That’s for us. Knock it off. There’s so many things where it’s like that’s ours.

[00:43:12] Chalene Johnson : Get out of our space. We own that. That’s not for you Hair highlights, that’s not for you. Again, we make exceptions if you’re gay, but if you’re straight, you don’t get to highlight your hair. What are you doing? You don’t get to pick out your outfits in advance. What? No. Now, we can pick out your outfit for you, but a man who’s like, “Oh, I need to pick out my outfits,” what?

[00:43:39] Chalene Johnson : First of all, you don’t even have outfits. You have uniforms or clothes, but you don’t have outfits. Okay? We need you to just, like, put things on and it works. We don’t want to know that you’ve put effort into it. Oh, and here’s another one that happens a lot here in Miami, is they wear the, like, head-to-toe designer label where it says, like, Louis Vuitton or Balmain or whatever the stupid designer logo is.

[00:44:03] Chalene Johnson : And all I see is I’m a tool. Because if you’re wearing a shirt, if you’re wearing a shirt, if you’re wearing a set, a matching set like you’re an eight-year-old wearing Garanimals from the ’80s, if you know, you know, you look so silly. You really look like a grown-up t- You look like a giant toddler when you’re wearing a matching set, like a matching shirt and matching pants, and it says Louis Vuitton all over both of them, and that

[00:44:31] Chalene Johnson : So that tells me that you are wearing a $4,000 Garanimal set And that doesn’t make me think, “Oh, wow. This person has money.” It makes me think, “Is this person that stupid that they would spend, like, $4,000 on an outfit that you can only wear once ’cause everyone’s gonna remember it?” You know what I mean?

[00:44:51] Chalene Johnson : And also, even if you did decide to, to wear it multiple times, it’s out of style next year ’cause anyone who actually knows what it is knows that that was last… You know what I’m saying? Like, it’s just, what are you doing, bro? Stop it. And Miami has got the biggest dorks of all time. It is, like, dork central here.

[00:45:09] Chalene Johnson : If I was a woman my age, I would move out of Miami so fast. This is not where the cool dudes are. Mm-mm. I think I’d move to a Midwestern state or, like, maybe to, like, Texas or, I don’t know, but I… Not California and not Miami. Too many guys here come here because, and there’s plenty of them, to date a bimbo who’s looking for a yacht daddy, just, just shopping for a husband, shopping for a meal tick- shopping for a purse, happy to go down on their skanky, gross, smelly ball sack and do the deed in order to have the keys to the Rolls-Royce and a membership to Anatomy where they can flirt with other men.

[00:45:59] Chalene Johnson : Like, that’s what’s going on here in Miami, and I think it’s the worst here, and it’s California, too. Like, those two… If I lived in one of those states, I… What’s Vegas like? I feel like Vegas would kind of be like that, too. Like, you know, if you’re gonna meet a wholesome man, I think you gotta go, I don’t know.

[00:46:17] Chalene Johnson : Thank God, thank the Lord up above that I don’t have to deal with that. And God bless those of you who do have to deal with it, h- what- in, in whatever way that we can help you. If, in fact, you’re looking for a man, I don’t know. Maybe you’re like, “Uh, no. Been there, done that. Thank you very little. Actually looking for a recommendation on a vibrator.”

[00:46:37] Chalene Johnson : That’s what we should do in this episode. Listen, we all have to stick together. If you’ve got a great vibrator, drop it in the comments. I am not ashamed to say that we finally bought one with a battery, a good old-fashioned Duracell battery. And so here, here’s my question: Duracell battery or rechargeable?

[00:46:57] Chalene Johnson : ‘Cause I just feel like the rechargeable ones never last, and they always decide to malfunction at the worst possible moment, if you know what I’m saying. Okay, so last thing I wanted to say with regard to… Drop that comment, by the way, okay? Let’s help each other out. But with regard to, like, me getting back into the swing of being a CEO, yeah, I’ve been in, like, CEO mode the last three days, pretty hardcore.

[00:47:23] Chalene Johnson : And I’m gonna say this right now because I’m holding myself accountable to make a decision on Phase It within the next two weeks. And you’re like, “Decision on what?” We have to figure out how it can be restructured so that it makes sense financially, because right now it doesn’t make financial sense to keep operating Phase It.

[00:47:42] Chalene Johnson : It just doesn’t. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze, as they say. Our payroll is, and expenses, and p- the platform, and all of the resources, and the marketing of it. Like, I don’t think people have any idea how expensive it is to operate a program I mean, not currently ’cause we’re on hiatus, but it’s not unheard of.

[00:48:05] Chalene Johnson : To give you an idea, it’s not unheard of for a, a program which you constantly have to market to get new people in, because any program, especially a membership, has a churn rate, meaning people are in it for a certain period of time and then they’re like, “Eh, I’m gonna cancel.” So you’re always constantly having to get new members in, right?

[00:48:23] Chalene Johnson : And so the churn rate on a lot of programs, if you’re lucky, is four months, right? So it’s not uncommon at the height of marketing a, of a membership program to spend, to, to, t- your cost to be $100,000 a month cost. That’s a lot, and with that comes more team members employ- there’s just things to manage and, okay, now this is broken.

[00:48:49] Chalene Johnson : O- okay, now the, the rates on this have gone up. Now we have to evaluate that. And, and as I’ve mentioned, we’re in a place where I really like enjoying my life, and by the same token, to be free from my, what’s that called, non-compete, and to be able to create fitness programs for women is, is very exciting.

[00:49:11] Chalene Johnson : So what we will be deciding in the next two weeks is how do we move forward with Phase It? Does it get a restructure? Do we redesign it? Do we give it a c- total facelift? Do we sell it? Do we sunset it? And I know some of you are customers. Trust me, you will be well taken care of. That is our reputation. We always take care of our customers, but that’s where I’m at.

[00:49:35] Chalene Johnson : And I’m saying this publicly because I need to hold myself accountable. It’s just something I’ve been putting off and putting off, and the putting off of it is just kind of, like, bleeding us out. You know what I mean? And that, like, that’s not okay. I gotta, I gotta figure that out because there’s lots of things that we could be doing, like, in terms of my focus.

[00:49:54] Chalene Johnson : So for the last three days, I’ve been, like, in it. So I went from zero to 100. I literally, and I’m not joking, this is not an exaggeration, I did nothing work-wise other than talk to you on, for eight weeks. Nothing. Didn’t look at one YouTube video. Didn’t nothing. And I’m proud of myself because I’ve never done that before, ever.

[00:50:17] Chalene Johnson : And I, you know, I already talked about that, so I won’t go into it again, but just to give you that update, ’cause every week someone’s like, “Is it still sticking?” It is. But our doctor, Dr. Levinson, is gone for, you know, he, he’s in Europe this summer, and I’m like, dang, I, I- it’s a bummer ’cause I kinda would like to get back on that table and do another ketamine treatment, so I have to wait for him to get back.

[00:50:40] Chalene Johnson : But I really do feel like, okay, something has shifted, and I’d like to shift it a little further, just kinda seal the deal. But so far, so good, and of course I’ll keep you updated. Also, look at the description, because in the description for this show at the very bottom, I list just for your quick reference the questions that I would love for you to answer in the comments below.

[00:51:01] Chalene Johnson : ‘Cause you know if you don’t comment under an episode, you end up… It’s not my fault, it’s your decision, but you end up getting cursed with broken zippers for seven years. If you ever listen to an episode and don’t comment, it’s- the choice is yours. I love you, . Talk to you soon.